in fact he was with us in the pentagon. >> so he was with you. now you knew about the cable from ambassador stevens because general hamm informed you of it, is that correct? >> in a written weekly report. >> so when secretary clinton testified a few weeks ago that she had a clear-eyed assessment of the threat we faced in libya, is that really a credible statement, if she didn't know about the ambassador's cable on august 15 saying we can't tchevend place? >> well, i don't know that she didn't know about the cable. >> she said she didn't. >> then that's -- >> are you stunned that she didn't? >> i would call myself surprised she didn't. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never calls you, secretary panetta, and says how is it going? >> you know, normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat -- >> let me finish the answer, we were deploying the forces, he knew we were deploying the forces, he was being kept -- >> i hate to interrupt you but i've got limited time. we didn't deploy any forces. >> the event